Sunday, May 28, 2006

General Chat no 3

Not a lot going on today. Prescott in the papers is the only thing i can find to write about, What gives him the right to think we will put up with this behaviour, he should have been sacked long ago, come to think of it , they all should have gone long ago. we need people in power who will put our people first and make our country great again.

18 Comments:

Blogger Philip Bryant said...

blueboy...

There's a lot going on everyday...just don't expect to read about it in the papers.

Paulbad said (on Nicks blog);"name me one of these pathetic theories that were ever proved correct years later"

What was the Reichstag fire (which lead to WWII) if it wasn't a conspiracy? I'm sure many at the time refused to believe wannabe leaders such as Hitler and Goering would resort to such desperate actions. We now know they did!

11:50 am  
Blogger marmite dave said...

The Reichstag fire led to WW11? Interesting example of cause & effect.

1:24 pm  
Blogger spiv said...

It is generally accepted now by historians that the Reichstag fire was Hitler's way of bringing the German people to agree with his doctrine. It was a classic case of a 'false flag' attack, motivating the people to be outraged against an enemy they think were the attackers, and so swinging public opinion behind the politicians.

1:37 pm  
Blogger shieldwall said...

Who is this Marmite Dave? such small comments and little debate,come on Dave, concoct a meaningful comment and debate!.

3:22 pm  
Blogger spiv said...

Marmite Dave, we would all be interested in hearing some of your views on areas you believe to be right or wrong currently in the UK?

4:13 pm  
Blogger blueboy said...

your right philip, the media has a lot to answer for. I've been reading the Freedom newspaper online, as i can't afford to subscribe at the moment, it would be great if it was a weekly paper, maybe someday.

4:17 pm  
Blogger marmite dave said...

I know about the Reichstag fire. I just thought it was a questionable remark telling blueboy that the fire led to WW2. It was certianly an event, amongst a sequence of events, but I'm not sure it's accurate to say the Reichstag fire led to WW2.

4:26 pm  
Blogger shieldwall said...

Marmite Dave,one of a series,i would say!.

4:35 pm  
Blogger spiv said...

Fair comment M/Dave, I see your point.

4:35 pm  
Blogger Philip Bryant said...

Marmite dave...

Hitler's moment of birth lead to WWII but the Reichstag fire was one of the most notable events as it let Hitler into power. So in a big sense it did lead to WWII.

5:10 pm  
Blogger Philip Bryant said...

Marmite...

Basically I'm just saying the fire was the result of a cospiracy, and one which played a major role in the build up to the war.

5:15 pm  
Blogger marmite dave said...

Do you know what I think? I think ultimately everyone believes what they want to believe. There are enough "facts" & "proof" out there to support any political view. I also think there is a difference between winning an argument and being right about something. It seems to me that a great many people fail to recognise the distinction.

5:15 pm  
Blogger Philip Bryant said...

Just for the record I'll clarify my own view on the 9/11 conspiracy.

I believe that Bush/Cheyney/Silverstein KNEW IN ADVANCE that 9/11 was gonna happen, I believe they had at least an hour's notice and should have had all possible targets evacuated. Instead nearly 3000 perished.

If They allowed 9/11 to happen in order to justify going to war with Iraq/Iran, then this begs the question: why didn't Bush and Blair just come out and say "Islam is a viciuos and wicked faith, so were going to war", rather than sitting back and watching 3000 innocent people die?

The 9/11 debate is an important one to me, because if my reading of 9/11 is correct then our 'leaders' are prepared to watch innocent people die because they lack the courage to tell it like it is.

I'm all for the war against the advance of Islam and Sharia Law, but if our leaders are prepared to let 1000's die, then I question the way it's being conducted...by cowards!

5:36 pm  
Blogger Philip Bryant said...

Spiv...

I think Paul may have visited my Sacred Circle blog, which is in a different format to the others for the simple reason it is a temporary blog I set up so myself and some contacts in the US could exchange a few ideas.One of them is a numerologist and believes there was some numerical significance to 9/11, which explains the references to 9 and 11 in those posts. If Paul thinks my suspicions about 9/11 are based on numerology he's got the wrong end of the stick. I don't dispute that 9/11 was an al-quedea terrorist attack on the US, only that nothing could be done to stop it.

7:34 pm  
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7:14 am  
Blogger spiv said...

Scotland, however did you work that one out? Must be one of the conspirators ;-))

Phil, I did take a very quick look several days ago at your site, there was so much of it that I vowed to come back again to take a good look, which I will. Trouble for me is that, although taking part in these discussions possibly makes it appear as if I do nothing else, I'm actually at work, and I work long hours - am working now whilst everyone else if on bank holiday. It is just that, being on broadband and pretty much using my computers continually, to see what you are all writing is just a small click of the mouse button.

Then when I'm not working I'm either studying my Maths module this year (been six years so far doing my OU degree, final year next year (thank God (or should that be Allah??)), or else spending time with my long suffering wife, who keeps telling me that I am her "cross she has to bear" :-((

I will look at your hypothesis one day soon, I promise you. Am not convinced about any relevance of dates and numbers. I also don't believe it was Al-Qaeda, I believe it was a 'phsy-op', the CIA and other factions would have the abilities to do this sort of thing, and the Americans have the technology. Indeed, King Arthur states on Nick's blog that it would be difficult to detonate explosives so fast and in sequence. I believe it would be very easy to write software to do this. I am also keen to see a proper full and honest American public enquiry into the matter, as some 3,000 innocent people were killed, and out of respect to them, Bush should hold one (assuming he has nothing to hide!!). The movement of opinion in America is building, and I do believe one day, in years to come, there will be a full enquiry, not the previous white-wash of the 9/11 report, which point blank refused to let many people testify who witnessed things 'out of the ordinary'.

Anyway, this has been discussed enough on these blogs, Paulbad has got extremely irritated with me. I've only been concentrating on one aspect of the questions, there are loads more about other areas which don't make sense about the attacks, so if anyone is interested, just follow the links I have already given, or else google for '9/11 hoax' or 'missing 9/11 planes' or whatever, and you will find a host of info. Some of it is, in my opinion, completely way off course, even to me, and, as you know, I'm convinced that it was indeed a 'false-flag' attack.

8:07 am  
Blogger spiv said...

Couple of links about the upswell of public opinion, if folks are interested:

http://septembereleventh.org

and

www.newtopiamagazine.net/archives/
content/issue17/oped/911.php

8:37 am  
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1:04 pm  

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